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silens vesica Corsair Cartel 330	Posted - 2013.01.10 14:18:00 - [1] - Quote Fleur Kendall wrote: Source is CCP Nullabor from this Dev Blog Under "The Tools of War" subheading he says "We are also enabling the ultimate in cross game escapades, Orbital Bombardment, with the first flavor being the Tactical Strike...you can load up these special long range, high precision munitions into suitable small turret weapons and rain fire from the skies...more guns are just better, so I recommend the destroyer hull...for this particular task" Obviously this doesn't mean that it is limited to being fitted to only small ships, but I wait to see how the mechanics pan out I guess... Destroyers are a long-held traditional close-support vessel IRL. You only bring in the big guys when you really want to do some landscaping. If you want what you're assaulting to still be more-or-less intact, you use the small guys. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 332	Posted - 2013.01.10 16:23:00 - [2] - Quote iskflakes wrote: So why can't you hit a stationary target at arbitrary range? Ever hear of divergance? Even a tiny fraction of a % of error becomes large, as range increases. 1 minute of angle at 100 yards is a one inch error. At 100,000 yards it's a thousand inches. At a million yards... I'm sure you get the picture. Quote: Why does damage decrease in falloff (the shell should not have slowed down)? See divergence, above, and also: what Stitcher said. Quote: Why if you miss one ship in a bunch of ships can't you hit the others? See divergence, and also - Space is BIG. Your shot is small. Ships are moving at very large relative velocities - if you're not tracking it specifically, your chance of hitting it is very small. IRL: If you're gunning for ducks, and you miss your shot, does another duck fall? Nope. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 332	Posted - 2013.01.10 16:24:00 - [3] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: See??? It's a SUBMARINE game!! Which is why I love it so. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 333	Posted - 2013.01.10 16:29:00 - [4] - Quote Freighdee Katt wrote: One might even speculate that at some point the small munitions will be removed or neutered and this will be transitioned to a large / extra-large weapon only feature, which would make somewhat more sense. If something like that does happen, maybe those small tac munitions will become a nice little collector curiosity some day. Nah. Even when there were big-gun cruisers and battleships for Naval Gunfire Support, the lowly Destroyer had its place. When you want something small hit precisely, or want to blow something up in close proximity to friendly crunchies, the Destroyer is your go-to platform. When you want to do large-scale urban renewal or industrial landscaping, the Battleship is your friend. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 333	Posted - 2013.01.10 16:32:00 - [5] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: silens vesica wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: See??? It's a SUBMARINE game!! Which is why I love it so. And also why flying a Venture gives all new meaning to the song, We All Live in a Yellow Submarine EDIT: I'm pretty sure that ship was coloured so as a joke by the devs in reference to the whole "EVE is submarines" meme. No doubt. And now I've got that damned song stuck in my head. Ganked by an earworm... Thank you EVER so much! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 334	Posted - 2013.01.10 17:43:00 - [6] - Quote Bai'xao Meiyi wrote: Also take note, they aren't trying to destroy the facilities they fight over, these places are very valuable. They want to keep them around. So huge weaponry is a Terrible idea. Unless you're losing badly. Then: Nuke the site from orbit. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 341	Posted - 2013.01.11 14:39:00 - [7] - Quote Eh. Never mind - already been thoroughly handled. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 341	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:03:00 - [8] - Quote Mars Theran wrote: Technically, all it takes is an orbital platform, (i.e: satellite with this intended purpose). Beware, they are floating up there, over your head, as we speak. Project Thor Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 342	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:31:00 - [9] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: silens vesica wrote: Mars Theran wrote: Technically, all it takes is an orbital platform, (i.e: satellite with this intended purpose). Beware, they are floating up there, over your head, as we speak. Project Thor Referencing Prisonplanet or Infowars for anything is like using a placemat map from McDonalds for directions instead of a GPS or a refadex. I navigate by landmarks and paper maps. I break out an old lensatic compass if I need orientation. (Actual truth. I don't get lost.) Actually: I just grabbed the first link that had images. Prisonplanet was the luck winner today. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 342	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:57:00 - [10] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: The image is either broken there or there isn't one. Alternatively, this post on another forum entirely has a legitimate image of the Project Thor concept. Same image source - Though the Prinsonplanet linked one is better resolution. Dunno why can't see it. Quote: The problem with implementing space militarisation, though, is that once you put a weapon like this up there, everyone else is going to want to even the playing field, which means more expenditures on defence systems to maintain the system as a legitimate platform. Welcome to EVE. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

silens vesica Corsair Cartel 344	Posted - 2013.01.11 16:24:00 - [11] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: I welcome something like this in EVE. Weapons platforms like this deployed to protect their sov planets from DUST assault? Bring it on VERY interesting direction for expansion, there... EVE corps researching and building obital weaopns platforms (OWP), to be deployed and anchored in space over a grid, not unlike a POCO or POS, to provide un-manned on-call aerospace bombardment strikes to their faction allies below..? I see a whole new arena of co-operative EVE/Dust interaction, complete with fleets sieging other fleets' OWPs in coordinatino with surface assaults... Oh, what a brave new world of conflict that yawns open before us with flaming maw... Devs! Make this happen! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 344	Posted - 2013.01.11 16:30:00 - [12] - Quote The more I think about OWPs, the more I'm geeking on the concept... Sov and planetary control rules to enable the emplacement of different size OWPs... OWP fuel and ammo re-load runs past hostile fleets.... Sieging each other's OWPs, maybe even a mechanism for capturing them? Oh, I've only just touched on the possibilities, but I SO want to SEE this HAPPEN! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 344	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:22:00 - [13] - Quote Nukleanis wrote: Wouldn't ground-based defences (big-ass weapons seen in trailers) just eliminate orbital platforms? Quite possibly - EVERYTHING in EVE has a counter, after all. Note, however, that an OWP is much smaller than a ship, and thus a hard target. OTOH, vulnerability to plantary defenses means that shipboard bombardment (where available) will always have primacy. Further, IIRC, plantary defense installations are intended to be capturable sites - If the defenses are potting your OWPs, well, your Dust Bunnies have another primary target, don't they? Never intended that OWPs would be a replacement for shipboard weapons - but rather an unmanned and less-capable stand-in for, or supplement to, ships in space. Other advantages that ships have over OWPs would include the ability to reload, and the ability to alter ammo loads to best suit the target-of-the-moment. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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